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The beam with larger depth should be the main beam, and the beam smaller depth should be the secondary beam. By main beam, I mean that the beam has ability to attract forces from adjoining members because of its larger stiffness.

Keeping that thing in mind, secondary beams should have been transferring the reaction directly to main beams, and main beams should have been transferring the loads of secondary beams, which are carrying the load of metal deck and the live load, to concrete beams.

In the figure, they have placed larger and smaller size beams in the same directions. If smaller size are able to carry load, as is evident from the standing structure, why use larger beams. They have wasted material.

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