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Aoa. I agree with haro0n that this is a very nice topic. Thanks to waqar saleem for starting this important topic. IMHO, this sub-forum is a very good platform for the engineering students in several ways. For example, here they can discuss their structure related problems, learn practical aspects of civil & structural engineering and share their structural knowledge as well. This all is however not possible without active participation from seniors. I understand that the seniors, especially the experienced ones, might be very busy in their professional duties (experience in structural engineering means a lot of study as well as a lot of hard work). and they may not having much time to spare for this forum. Everybody who works in an office, organization or firm as a structural engineer, gathers experience by carrying out different types of design jobs. Therefore, he/she can and should share his/her experience at this forum, whenever a similar problem is discussed here. I however sincerely feel that all of us should give some time to this Forum, particularly 'students zone' sub-forum regularly, and share our experience and knowledge here. This would certainly help our student colleagues, in developing better ideas and learning more practical engineering knowledge, thereby making them better engineers. I will myself, insha-allah, try to visit this sub-forum as regularly as possible, and to share whatever experience and knowledge I have gathered, as and when it may be needed. @Abdul Razzaque, and @Musawer! It is my personal experience that it is very difficult to learn structural designing on your own, unless you have an actual job to do. Similar is the case of application of a structural software (e.g., ETABs, SAP2000, etc.) for practical design of structures. No doubt that you may learn the use of ETABS etc and get certificate for it as well. however, you cannot use it properly or efficiently, if you do not understand how various commands & options of ETABS relate to a real structure. At this forum, strictly IMHO, it is not possible for any one to teach you structural engineering, or modeling with ETABS etc, from scratch. The best possible way therefore should be that you should look around you and find some experienced structural engineer, whether working on his own or for some organization or firm. Start working for him, even if you have to work without any financial benefits, and ask him to give you some actual job for designing. Once you get some real design job, you may use your engineering knowledge, and ETABS as well (if it is frame type structure) to perform the structural designing. You may discuss the practical aspects of your assigned job in this forum (in addition to asking your structural engineer boss), should you have some queries or need some help in performing its design. In this way, you are more likely to learn structural designing as well as practical use of structural software (ETABS etc). WORD OF CAUTION: Always remember that no software (ETABS or else) is a structural engineer. It is just a better quality calculator, that can help the structural engineer analyze and design structural frames comparatively quickly and reliably, provided you understand the capabilities & limitations of the software very well, and can apply them to your structural problem correctly.